From loriayre at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 21:54:21 2007 From: loriayre at gmail.com (Lori Ayre) Date: Thu Jul 5 21:54:25 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] volunteer(s) needed In-Reply-To: References: <01C9500918B67F4A9F31BDEC2E899A2F248031@SERVER1.clicweb.local> Message-ID: <6aaa5a160707051854s55762ca1wd0459dff391d9bc8@mail.gmail.com> Hi Gerry, I did it but it's ugly. Maybe you can fix the line breaks? Lori On 6/18/07, Maginnity. Gerald wrote: > > > Anybody going to ALA? (I am not) > > Going to the program listed below? > > Would anyone be interested in posting their notes to the blog for the Moving > Mountains Project? > > You may post directly to the blog by composing an e-mail and sending it to: > > eiremex86.movemount@blogger.com > > > > Please remember to include your contact information for follow-up. > > Attachments will not work. > > > > More information at the blog site: > > http://movemount.blogspot.com/ > > > Thanks, > > > Gerry Maginnity > California State Library > Library Development Services > 900 N St., Suite 500 > Sacramento, CA 95814 > Tel. 916-653-7183 FAX 916-653-8443 > gmaginnity@library.ca.gov > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: movingmountains-bounces@swonlibraries.org > [mailto:movingmountains-bounces@swonlibraries.org] On > Behalf Of Valerie Horton > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:16 PM > To: movingmountains@swonlibraries.org; libnet@marmot.org > Subject: [Moving Mountains] Annoucing ALA physical delivery program > > > > > > Moving Mountains: Exciting Trends in Library Delivery Services > > Sponsored by: ASCLA ICAN, ASCLA SLAS, and RUSA STARS > > Sunday: 8 to 10am Washington Convention Center 145A > > > > In September 2006, Colorado held a nationwide Courier Symposium to explore > the state-of-the-art in physical delivery systems. The Symposium studied > delivery methods, finance models, and best practices. The goals of the > Symposium were to aid in the creation of new courier systems, improve > existing systems, and link systems together. We will present the findings > from the Symposium and explore the feasibility of creating inter-linkages > between existing courier systems in the United States and Canada. > > > _______________________________________________ > MovingMountains mailing list > MovingMountains@swonlibraries.org > http://www.swonlibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/movingmountains > > -- ============= Lori Bowen Ayre The Galecia Group lori.ayre@galecia.com (707) 763-6869 From rgarza at mcls.org Tue Jul 24 16:43:25 2007 From: rgarza at mcls.org (Rosario Garza) Date: Tue Jul 24 16:45:14 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage Message-ID: <200707241346672.SM03868@lap1pas> Folks: If you own your delivery vans, how many miles do you typically put on your vans before you start to consider trading them in? We currently own 2 Ford Econoline vans, one purchased in Jan. 2005 and the other one acquired in June 2006. We put about 150 miles/day on each, or about 750 miles/week (in LA/Orange County traffic). The older van has approximately 92,000 miles on it right now. In the past, we've started thinking new van at around 100,000 miles. Do you keep your vans for longer mileage? Thanks for any and all rsponses. Rosario Garza Executive Director MCLS 3675 E. Huntington Dr., Ste 100 Pasadena, CA 91107 http://www.mcls.org / rgarza@mcls.org 626-683-8244 / FAX: 626-683-8097 From RutherfordA at milescc.edu Thu Jul 26 15:02:53 2007 From: RutherfordA at milescc.edu (Ann Rutherford) Date: Thu Jul 26 15:16:29 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] a new lurker ;) Message-ID: :-) Just me, ann Ann Rutherford Library Director Miles Community College Library Online Reference Page 1.406.874.6196 OR 874.6105 1.800.541.9281 ext. 6196 FAX 1.406.874.6282 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.swonlibraries.org/pipermail/movingmountains/attachments/20070726/2892b67c/attachment.htm From anne at swonlibraries.org Thu Jul 26 16:48:47 2007 From: anne at swonlibraries.org (Anne K. Abate) Date: Thu Jul 26 16:48:45 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] a new lurker ;) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46A908AF.2060307@swonlibraries.org> Welcome to the list. You will find that traffic is usually fairly light, but it is still nice to have somewhere to turn to speak to people in the Moving Mountains language. At last report, there were about 50 participants. Anne Ann Rutherford wrote: > J > > > > Just me, ann > > > > *Ann Rutherford * > > *Library Director* > > *Miles** Community College** * > > *Library Online Reference Page > * > > *1.406.874.6196 **OR** 874.6105* > > *1.800.541.9281 ext. 6196* > > *FAX 1.406.874.6282* > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > MovingMountains mailing list > MovingMountains@swonlibraries.org > http://www.swonlibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/movingmountains -- Anne K. Abate, Ph.D. Executive Director SWON Libraries (serving Southwest Ohio and Neighboring Libraries) 10815 Indeco Drive, Suite 200 Cincinnati, OH 45241-2926 anne@swonlibraries.org Voice 513-751-4422 Fax 513-751-0463 www.swonlibraries.org From judyh at palsnet.info Thu Jul 26 17:32:06 2007 From: judyh at palsnet.info (Hutchinson, Judy) Date: Fri Jul 27 10:00:44 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage In-Reply-To: <589FDF4DF91307439D211F7404B00E8763ACCD@exc01.ILSOS.ORG> References: <589FDF4DF91307439D211F7404B00E8763ACCD@exc01.ILSOS.ORG> Message-ID: <8BA697A7EFB72943B62B077E1EFB10FEB5A397@cvponyexpress.prairie.local> Rosario, Within the Prairie Area Library System (www.palsnet.info), we operate 10 library delivery routes, carried 2.1 million items our last fiscal year, and drive nearly 450,000 miles a year to deliver materials for our members. We go out for bid for our delivery vans, but have also purchased Ford Econoline extended cab vans in the last few years (since they've consistently won the bid). We buy on average two new delivery vans each year. We try to get at least 200,000 miles on the vans before we trade them. We do, in fact, have two vans that are over 200,000 miles right now and they are still going strong! The engines are fine, although the bodies are starting to show some wear. We are still able to get decent trade-ins on the older vans because of the many companies interested in purchased used delivery vehicles. Hope this helps, or let me know if I can be of any further assistance. Judy Judy Hutchinson Administrative Services Manager Prairie Area Library System 220 W. 23rd Ave, PO Box 125 Coal Valley, IL 61240 judyh@palsnet.info 309-799-3155, x 3150 877-LIB-PALS www.palsnet.info -----Original Message----- From: Downing, Mary [mailto:MDowning@ILSOS.NET] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:54 PM To: Bob Towner (E-mail); Roman, Brenda; Charm Ruhnke (E-mail); Chris Janvrin (E-mail); Claudia Sheets (E-mail); Faith Jones (E-mail); Frank Gorchos (E-mail); Jim Holt (E-mail); Hutchinson, Judy; Larry Krenos (E-mail); Len Morris (E-mail); Ehrhart, Marie; Janssen, Marilyn; Pat Boze (E-mail); Phil Evans (E-mail); Randy Patka (E-mail); Rich Crema (E-mail); Sherry Highley (E-mail); Grasty, Shirley; Steve Johnson (E-mail) Subject: FW: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage Hi Folks, This person attended a meeting in Denver about delivery last September that some of us from Illinois attended and after that, they set up a listserv. I thought that all of you could add your two cents to this question. Mary Downing Specialized Services Consultant Illinois State Library Gwendolyn Brooks Building 300 S. Second St. Springfield, IL 62701 Phone: 217-782-5506 E-mail mdowning@ilsos.net Fax: 217-782-1877 Jesse White, Secretary of State and State Librarian "I'm of a fearsome mind to throw my arms around every living librarian who crosses my path, on behalf of the souls they never knew they saved." Barbara Kingsolver -----Original Message----- From: movingmountains-bounces@swonlibraries.org [mailto:movingmountains-bounces@swonlibraries.org]On Behalf Of Rosario Garza Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:43 PM To: movingmountains@swonlibraries.org Subject: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage Folks: If you own your delivery vans, how many miles do you typically put on your vans before you start to consider trading them in? We currently own 2 Ford Econoline vans, one purchased in Jan. 2005 and the other one acquired in June 2006. We put about 150 miles/day on each, or about 750 miles/week (in LA/Orange County traffic). The older van has approximately 92,000 miles on it right now. In the past, we've started thinking new van at around 100,000 miles. Do you keep your vans for longer mileage? Thanks for any and all rsponses. Rosario Garza Executive Director MCLS 3675 E. Huntington Dr., Ste 100 Pasadena, CA 91107 http://www.mcls.org / rgarza@mcls.org 626-683-8244 / FAX: 626-683-8097 _______________________________________________ MovingMountains mailing list MovingMountains@swonlibraries.org http://www.swonlibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/movingmountains From loriayre at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 12:41:16 2007 From: loriayre at gmail.com (Lori Ayre) Date: Fri Jul 27 12:41:21 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage In-Reply-To: <8BA697A7EFB72943B62B077E1EFB10FEB5A397@cvponyexpress.prairie.local> References: <589FDF4DF91307439D211F7404B00E8763ACCD@exc01.ILSOS.ORG> <8BA697A7EFB72943B62B077E1EFB10FEB5A397@cvponyexpress.prairie.local> Message-ID: <6aaa5a160707270941h18454241qa48b706578c09435@mail.gmail.com> Bruce Smith of South Central Library System would be a very good resource on this. I don't remember what he said in terms of mileage for his trucks but he did say that you should be using the largest trucks you can and reducing the driver to items ratio. He also recommended diesel over gas vehicles because they hold up better and have better mileage. Lori Ayre On 7/26/07, Hutchinson, Judy wrote: > > > Rosario, > > Within the Prairie Area Library System (www.palsnet.info), we operate 10 > library delivery routes, carried 2.1 million items our last fiscal year, > and drive nearly 450,000 miles a year to deliver materials for our > members. > > We go out for bid for our delivery vans, but have also purchased Ford > Econoline extended cab vans in the last few years (since they've > consistently won the bid). We buy on average two new delivery vans each > year. We try to get at least 200,000 miles on the vans before we trade > them. We do, in fact, have two vans that are over 200,000 miles right > now and they are still going strong! The engines are fine, although the > bodies are starting to show some wear. We are still able to get decent > trade-ins on the older vans because of the many companies interested in > purchased used delivery vehicles. > > Hope this helps, or let me know if I can be of any further assistance. > > Judy > > Judy Hutchinson > Administrative Services Manager > Prairie Area Library System > 220 W. 23rd Ave, PO Box 125 > Coal Valley, IL 61240 > > judyh@palsnet.info > 309-799-3155, x 3150 > 877-LIB-PALS > > www.palsnet.info > > -----Original Message----- > From: Downing, Mary [mailto:MDowning@ILSOS.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:54 PM > To: Bob Towner (E-mail); Roman, Brenda; Charm Ruhnke (E-mail); Chris > Janvrin (E-mail); Claudia Sheets (E-mail); Faith Jones (E-mail); Frank > Gorchos (E-mail); Jim Holt (E-mail); Hutchinson, Judy; Larry Krenos > (E-mail); Len Morris (E-mail); Ehrhart, Marie; Janssen, Marilyn; Pat > Boze (E-mail); Phil Evans (E-mail); Randy Patka (E-mail); Rich Crema > (E-mail); Sherry Highley (E-mail); Grasty, Shirley; Steve Johnson > (E-mail) > Subject: FW: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage > > Hi Folks, > This person attended a meeting in Denver about delivery last September > that some of us from Illinois attended and after that, they set up a > listserv. I thought that all of you could add your two cents to this > question. > > Mary Downing > Specialized Services Consultant > Illinois State Library > Gwendolyn Brooks Building > 300 S. Second St. > Springfield, IL 62701 > Phone: 217-782-5506 > E-mail mdowning@ilsos.net > Fax: 217-782-1877 > > Jesse White, Secretary of State and State Librarian > > "I'm of a fearsome mind to throw my arms around every living librarian > who crosses my path, on behalf of the souls they never knew they saved." > Barbara Kingsolver > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: movingmountains-bounces@swonlibraries.org > [mailto:movingmountains-bounces@swonlibraries.org]On Behalf Of Rosario > Garza > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:43 PM > To: movingmountains@swonlibraries.org > Subject: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage > > > Folks: > > If you own your delivery vans, how many miles do you typically put on > your vans before you start to consider trading them in? We currently own > 2 Ford Econoline vans, one purchased in Jan. 2005 and the other one > acquired in June 2006. We put about 150 miles/day on each, or about 750 > miles/week (in LA/Orange County traffic). The older van has > approximately 92,000 miles on it right now. In the past, we've started > thinking new van at around 100,000 miles. > > Do you keep your vans for longer mileage? Thanks for any and all > rsponses. > > Rosario Garza > Executive Director > MCLS > 3675 E. Huntington Dr., Ste 100 > Pasadena, CA 91107 > http://www.mcls.org / rgarza@mcls.org > 626-683-8244 / FAX: 626-683-8097 > > > _______________________________________________ > MovingMountains mailing list > MovingMountains@swonlibraries.org > http://www.swonlibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/movingmountains > _______________________________________________ > MovingMountains mailing list > MovingMountains@swonlibraries.org > http://www.swonlibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/movingmountains > -- = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Lori Bowen Ayre The Galecia Group lori.ayre@galecia.com (707) 763-6869 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.swonlibraries.org/pipermail/movingmountains/attachments/200= 70727/e5212b4d/attachment.htm From bsmith at scls.lib.wi.us Fri Jul 27 14:59:01 2007 From: bsmith at scls.lib.wi.us (Bruce Smith) Date: Fri Jul 27 14:59:07 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage In-Reply-To: <200707241346672.SM03868@lap1pas> References: <200707241346672.SM03868@lap1pas> Message-ID: <200707271859.l6RIx1eI041682@mail.scls.lib.wi.us> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.swonlibraries.org/pipermail/movingmountains/attachments/20070727/790780af/attachment.htm From kerri.canepa at alaska.gov Fri Jul 27 15:57:56 2007 From: kerri.canepa at alaska.gov (Canepa, Kerri A (EED)) Date: Fri Jul 27 15:58:00 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] Experiences with ground service providers Message-ID: <207772E7033FE843BF6A894F62FE3371221373@SOAANCMSG02.soa.alaska.gov> While I would love to develop in-house delivery service, that's not realistic for the Alaska Library Network at this time. We're not a formal organization yet (although we have 30+ years of informal library collaboration all called the Alaska Library Network) and I think what funds we'll have on hand at the beginning will best be served elsewhere. Given that, I am in the process of developing delivery service between Fairbanks and Anchorage (one way - 360 miles). Very simple stuff; single pick-up/drop-off location in each city, one delivery per day, five days a week. I've spoken with both UPS and FedEx, and I'm playing telephone tag with DHL. UPS seems the most likely candidate because they have guaranteed overnight ground service between those cities and they can set it up to be an automatic daily pick-up/drop-off. FedEx could make it work and DHL (from what the national service rep told me) would be willing to talk to me about it. I'm looking for experiences with using UPS and FedEx ground service for regular deliveries. Particularly from areas with similar winter conditions. The highway between Fairbanks and Anchorage is well maintained during the winter but it can still be icy and extremely cold. Summer conditions are only a problem if there are large scale forest fires near the highway (very infrequent). Even if you don't have winter conditions even close to Alaska's I'd be happy to hear your comments. Thanks! Kerri Canepa Coordinator Alaska Library Network 334 W. 3rd Avenue, Ste 125 Anchorage, AK 99501 907-269-6567 kerri.canepa@alaska.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.swonlibraries.org/pipermail/movingmountains/attachments/20070727/43b54499/attachment-0001.htm From loriayre at gmail.com Fri Jul 27 16:24:01 2007 From: loriayre at gmail.com (Lori Ayre) Date: Fri Jul 27 16:24:09 2007 Subject: [Moving Mountains] Delivery van mileage In-Reply-To: <200707271859.l6RIx1eI041682@mail.scls.lib.wi.us> References: <200707241346672.SM03868@lap1pas> <200707271859.l6RIx1eI041682@mail.scls.lib.wi.us> Message-ID: <6aaa5a160707271324i48aea7e0jf046824db5fa86d4@mail.gmail.com> see what I mean? On 7/27/07, Bruce Smith wrote: > > Hi Rosario, > > There's a lot here, but I thought I'd put as much out there on the subject > that I know in case any of it's helpful to others. So, if you're not > interested in the nuts and bolts of truck purchasing and maintenance, you > can skip this response. > > In the South Central Library System (SCLS), based in Madison, WI, we > operate a delivery service for the 52 member public libraries in our 7 > county system (about 10 million items per year) and serve as the statewide > delivery service for Wisconsin (about 1.7 million items per year). In > total we have 20 structured routes, of which 4 of the local routes go out= 2 > times per day and 2 of the local routes go out 3 times per day, due to the > large volume, for a total of 28 route runs each week day. Our SCLS routes > go out Monday through Saturday and our statewide routes are run Monday > through Friday. We have a 24 vehicle fleet which covers around 820,000 > miles yearly. > > Up until about 5 years ago we had been purchasing Chevy 2500 Express cargo > vans. Many years ago we had put the vehicle purchase out to bid, chose t= he > Chevy cargo model and then implemented a fleet maintenance and replacement > model the previous delivery coordinator here learned when working in the > baked goods delivery business. The main idea of the model is once you ch= ose > the vehicle make/model, future vehicle replacements/additions should be of > the same model, so we did not put this out to bid after the Chevy choice = was > made. With our fleet program we typically get about 8-10 years of service > and around 400,000 miles out of our vehicles. The fleet program model and > reasons are as follows: > > - Religiously follow the maintenance schedule as detailed in the > service books that come with your vehicle. Have drivers perform a pre= -route > vehicle inspection each day (takes 5 minutes) to include checking fluid > levels, quick visual inspection of engine compartment for any evidence= of > fluid leaks, and exterior check for tire or body problems. We also do= a > more detailed weekly vehicle inspection (takes 15-20 minutes) which in= cludes > visual inspection of drive train, tire inspections and checking that > electrical components (lights, etc...) are in working order. Catching > things quickly prevents the components down the line from suffering un= due > wear/damage which can result in higher repair costs and a shorter vehi= cle > life. > - Replace components as needed, unless the cost of the repair and > replacement exceeds the value of the vehicle. Typically the death of = one of > our vehicles happens with the 2nd transmission replacement. We know, > because we stick with the same models, that historically the transmiss= ions > usually fail at around 200,000 miles. A 4-5 year old vehicle with this > mileage still has a higher market value than a $2,000 transmission > replacement. At 8-10 years and 400,000 miles the vehicle worth is usu= ally > less than a new transmission. Also, the working parts on the vehicle = are > worth much more than the vehicle itself at this point. > - Due to our fleet size, it's more economical to have an in-house > mechanic. After we perform a last rites ceremony for a vehicle, we re= move > working parts we can use to repair the other models like it still in u= se > (especially body parts like doors). If a door goes because of age or = damage > it can cost $1,000-$1,200 to replace at a body shop. By having the sa= me > models, we can reuse doors from old vehicles at no cost, other than our > mechanics time to switch doors, which is much less than $1,000. Once > stripped, we send the vehicle's skeletal remains to a salvage yard. > - Our cost analysis for this fleet program model has been as > follows. Say it's an 8 year vehicle cycle we are planning for. In our > model, we purchase the vehicle for, say, $20,000 and will have no trade > in/sale return for the vehicle for it when it dies. In a model where = you > would purchase 2 vehicles in the same 8 year cycle, the first vehicle = would > cost $20,000 and the second vehicle, with inflation, costs $22,500. If > these vehicles get around $5,000 each at trade in (approximate current= Kelly > Blue Book trade in value for a 4 year old Chevy Express van with 200,0= 00 > miles), the net purchase cost for those vehicles in the 8 years is $32= ,500. > Note, if you sell as a private seller, the value for these is $1,500-$= 2,000 > higher than trade in. Our dealership salesperson told us we should al= ways > sell privately for these types of vehicles, if we ever would, because = the > used buyer market for cargo vans is very strong with people in the > construction trades industry always looking for used cargo vans. > - With the $12,500 difference in purchase costs between the models, > this leaves the question of maintenance costs; will the maintenance co= sts of > the single vehicle be $12,500 more in the last 4 years of its life tha= n the > first 4 years of maintenance costs of the 2nd vehicle purchased in the= other > model? In our experience (we're on our 37th vehicle since our service= began > in 1975) is it is not. While the last 4 years of the vehicle does cos= t more > in maintenance than the first 4 years, it is usually not that much mor= e, the > largest cost being the transmission replacement. However, it's happen= ed > we've had a transmission go out earlier in its life (always after the > warranty runs out), so projecting maintenance costs is not an exact > science. There are two other pieces we get in cost savings, which is > $2,000-$3,000 in reusable parts from a deceased van and we only have t= he > costs of lettering and outfitting the vehicle's cargo area once, as op= posed > to twice. In the end, we calculate that when you amortize the costs of > purchase and maintenance over the 8 years, our program saves us $1,000= to > $1,500 per year, per vehicle over if we turned over vehicles more > frequently. > > That's our program, which we currently employ, however, we have adapted to > purchasing different types of vehicles to handle the volume growth. As L= ori > mentioned, we've moved to diesel vehicles because the durability of the > engine should give us another couple of years and a 100,000 miles of life= or > more. Also, diesel vehicles typically can have a 25% or better fuel > efficiency (at least the ones we've went with do) and historically diesel > has cost less at the pump, though, until the last few months, it had been > higher than unleaded since Katrina. > > Lastly, on our vehicle reasons to switch to diesel, Wisconsin has a > growing biodiesel industry and we have moved to using a 20% blend (B20) i= n 3 > of our diesels and a 100% biodiesel (B100) in our other 4 diesels. 20% of > our total fuel purchase is now biodiesel. There's nothing that needs to = be > done to diesel vehicles to switch to biodiesel. In fact, it's a natural > lubricant for fuel lines and seals and runs so much cleaner (our garage d= oes > at times smell a little like popcorn or french fries, which if you're hun= gry > in the morning can be cruel), so it's better for the engine life. Howeve= r, > for those of us in the colder climates it's recommended that you do not u= se > more than a 20% blend in temps under 50 degrees. Fuel efficiency and cos= ts > have been similar to petroleum diesel with arrangements we have made with= a > local biofuel coop and the U of Wisconsin-Madison, which has a B20 pump on > campus. > > The main reason we went to different trucks is to, as Lori mentioned, > increase the driver/load ratio. Though our statewide volume growth is not > as large as the growth from the patron's use of our ILS system in SCLS, it > had grown to a point that we were going to have to look at splitting some= of > our statewide routes which can travel between 300-530 miles per day. Aft= er > much research we began replacing our Chevy cargos as they died with the > Dodge Sprinter. They're made by Mercedes and do cost around $6,000-$8,000 > more than the standard cargo van, but they get around 22 mpg vs. the 15-16 > mpg we were getting with the Chevys. And, their payload capacity is twice > as much as the Chevy/Fords (2,000 lbs. vs. 1,000 lbs.). This is where we > get the extra purchase pay back with in a year, by not having had to split > any of the statewide routes and pay for the costs of additional miles, and > most importantly, the labor to drive those miles. FedEx was the first to > use these in the U.S. and now I see them all over. Their routine > maintenance costs are less, only needing an oil change every 12,000-15,000 > miles, but parts will be more expensive as they will come from Germany. = We > haven't had a single part failure on the 3 we have, with the 1st one havi= ng > over 200,000 miles on it. > > Locally to handle our large volume within SCLS, we went to Mitsubishi Fuso > trucks with 14-16 foot boxes. We can carry 3 times to load with these th= at > we could with a cargo van and the fuel efficiency is only 3-4 miles less = mpg > than the Chevys. Not only did we not have to split routes, we actually w= ere > able to consolidate some routes together with the higher load capacity. = In > order to not break the drivers' backs I designed a cart with a local > manufacturer that enables the totes we use to transport materials with to > stay on wheels throughout the entire delivery chain without any driver > lifting. We put lift gates on the trucks, so when the totes are filled at > our central sorting hub, they get placed on the carts and stay on them in > transport and right into the library. They stay at the libraries for them > to use to move the totes to processing areas without lifting and then are > used by the libraries to put the totes on for their outgoing delivery. > We've greatly reduced our local mileage and driver time and have been inj= ury > free for 14 months. > > The other new thing we did in purchasing the box trucks for our local > routes is we bought used. After analyzing the used truck market, we've > found that trucks of this type are best found through truck sales compani= es > when they are returned to them after a leasing arrangement. We've found > them in the 3-5 year old range with 90,000-120,000 miles. Typically leas= ing > arrangements have maintenance plans built in to them so they come in good > shape. The best thing is we bought each of our 4 for an average of $15,0= 00 > vs. the $38,000-$42,000 new ones were listed at. We think we'll be able = to > get 6-8 years or 300,000 miles out of them. > > One last thing, the Dodge Sprinter and Mitsubushi Fuso have both developed > electric hybrid models, though they are not yet on the American market. > Dodge is testing theirs with FedEx and Mitsu is selling them in Japan. > These are the only hybrid options I'm aware of in the commercial cargo cl= ass > market. > > Good luck with your vehicle planning and please feel free to contact me if > you have any questions! > > Bruce Smith > SCLS Delivery Coordinator > > At 03:43 PM 7/24/2007, you wrote: > > Folks: > > If you own your delivery vans, how many miles do you typically put on your > vans before you start to consider trading them in? We currently own 2 Ford > Econoline vans, one purchased in Jan. 2005 and the other one acquired in > June 2006. We put about 150 miles/day on each, or about 750 miles/week (in > LA/Orange County traffic). The older van has approximately 92,000 miles on > it right now. In the past, we've started thinking new van at around > 100,000 > miles. > > Do you keep your vans for longer mileage? Thanks for any and all rsponses. > > Rosario Garza > Executive Director > MCLS > 3675 E. Huntington Dr., Ste 100 > Pasadena, CA 91107 > http://www.mcls.org / rgarza@mcls.org > 626-683-8244 / FAX: 626-683-8097 > > > _______________________________________________ > MovingMountains mailing list > MovingMountains@swonlibraries.org > http://www.swonlibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/movingmountains > > Bruce Smith > Delivery Coordinator > South Central Library System > 1601 Gilson Street > Madison, WI 53715-2127 > > voice: (608) 266-4695 > fax: (608) 266-4881 > e-mail: bsmith@scls.lib.wi.us > web site: http://www.sclsdelivery.info > > > _______________________________________________ > MovingMountains mailing list > MovingMountains@swonlibraries.org > http://www.swonlibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/movingmountains > > -- = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Lori Bowen Ayre The Galecia Group lori.ayre@galecia.com (707) 763-6869 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.swonlibraries.org/pipermail/movingmountains/attachments/200= 70727/9ef3afc4/attachment.htm From finch006 at umn.edu Mon Jul 30 14:28:29 2007 From: finch006 at umn.edu (Fred Finch) Date: Mon Jul 30 14:28:46 2007 Subject: Fwd: [Moving Mountains] Experiences with ground service providers Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20070730125834.01da23f8@finch006.email.umn.edu> Kerri, We had a delivery between MINITEX in Minneapolis, Minnesota and Bemidji State University in Bemidji, Minnesota. The distance is 230 miles. We had initially used a contract courier with poor results. We became dissatisfied with the service for many reasons. Primarily was that when the weather would become a factor in any way, service was delayed or cancelled. This happened far too frequently. We started the UPS service during the mid-winter. MINITEX established an account for Bemidji State to use and we were billed directly. Bemidji used a computer to process the materials on their end. Bemidji also established a secure location for the items to be staged so where their driver could access the tubs without entering the office. This worked well because the pickups on their end would happen after the office hours for the library. We sent the items in a plastic Buckhorn style tote with a lid that would be secured using nylon cable ties. We paid an extra handling fee of $5.00/day each direction for using the plastic tote but it was less than what we were paying in total for service using a courier. The service that UPS provided was excellent. With only a handful of delays because of weather our service went off without a hitch. It was consistently next-day and would arrive at the same time daily. We have since gone back to a courier but we are confident that we could return to UPS providing service without a problem. We have a similar service currently happening between MINITEX and the North Dakota State Library. The distance is 429 miles one way. The UPS Service area does not guarantee that this is an overnight service for ground transportation. Therefore this has been a 2 day service. We issue return tags that we print and place in the totes. This way the North Dakota State Library does not need to have a UPS account. Again, consistent service and very little wear and tear on our materials. Fred >>While I would love to develop in-house delivery service, that's not >>realistic for the Alaska Library Network at this time. We're not a formal >>organization yet (although we have 30+ years of informal library >>collaboration all called the Alaska Library Network) and I think what >>funds we'll have on hand at the beginning will best be served elsewhere. >> >>Given that, I am in the process of developing delivery service between >>Fairbanks and Anchorage (one way - 360 miles). Very simple stuff; single >>pick-up/drop-off location in each city, one delivery per day, five days a >>week. I've spoken with both UPS and FedEx, and I'm playing telephone tag >>with DHL. UPS seems the most likely candidate because they have >>guaranteed overnight ground service between those cities and they can set >>it up to be an automatic daily pick-up/drop-off. FedEx could make it work >>and DHL (from what the national service rep told me) would be willing to >>talk to me about it. >> >>I'm looking for experiences with using UPS and FedEx ground service for >>regular deliveries. Particularly from areas with similar winter >>conditions. The highway between Fairbanks and Anchorage is well >>maintained during the winter but it can still be icy and extremely cold. >>Summer conditions are only a problem if there are large scale forest >>fires near the highway (very infrequent). >> >>Even if you don't have winter conditions even close to Alaska's I'd be >>happy to hear your comments. Thanks! >> >>Kerri Canepa >>Coordinator >>Alaska Library Network >>334 W. 3rd Avenue, Ste 125 >>Anchorage, AK 99501 >>907-269-6567 >>kerri.canepa@alaska.gov >>_______________________________________________ >>MovingMountains mailing list >>MovingMountains@swonlibraries.org >>http://www.swonlibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/movingmountains -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.swonlibraries.org/pipermail/movingmountains/attachments/20070730/1904727b/attachment.htm